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Which Planes from Where?

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Which Planes from Where?

Postby psikeyhackr » Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:59 pm

Air-crash investigations in the United States are normally carried out by the NTSB's air accident investigation division, and there are several documentary television series featuring this government agency's painstaking approach when investigating the causes of air crashes. During many such investigations, serial numbers from recovered parts are cross checked with the airline-in-question's purchase and maintenance records, to try and identify the reason for an accident, when it is suspected that mechanical failure may have been the cause.

However the NTSB has confirmed that—apparently for the first time from its inception, in 1967, since when it has investigated more than 124,000 other aviation accidents—it took no part in investigating any of the air crashes which occurred on September 11, 2001. So the world has been asked to take it on faith and hearsay that the four planes involved were normal scheduled flights which were hijacked by Arab terrorists, some of whom, are, allegedly, still alive.

Even more disturbing is the fact that documentation exists, and is available on the Internet, which indicates that the FBI, backed up by a separate letter from the Justice Department has refused to release any information, under the Freedom of Information Act, about any debris recovered from the crash sites, including the serial number of the "Black Box" Cockpit Flight Data Recorder allegedly found near the alleged crash site of United Airlines Flight 93. It may be recalled that a transcript taken from this recorder formed the basis for several TV dramas and one Academy-Award winning feature film.

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/marc ... nes-al.php

I knew there were reasons to suspect that the plane which hit the south tower had been switched and might not be what was claimed but this is the first I heard of this.

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Re: Witch Planes from Where?

Postby achimspok » Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:03 pm

The only one known serial number was found under strange circumstances.
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video: http://www.youtube.com/v/ayxSP-Hksps
older discussion: http://s1.zetaboards.com/pumpitout/topic/2384740/1/

This piece fell from an elevation of 300m onto the hood of a 317m distant car on the south side of the Trinity Church. That piece of metal should have hit at a final velocity of 194mph. Even if it bounce from the street and jumped on the hood it should have been there for at least 1 hour prior to the dust. Nevertheless, it sits on top of the dust and looks pretty clean.
Well, according to CNN the policeman who found it waits for an forensic team. He never ever would touch that part, wouldn't he?

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Almost everything about the planes is a mystery. ...not just that the Air Force wasn't able to intercept them. I don't know if there is any catalog of unanswered questions about the planes. It would be huge.
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Re: Which Planes from Where?

Postby Daniel » Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:44 pm

Nevertheless, it sits on top of the dust and looks pretty clean.


:shock: it does not sit on the dust and it looks surely not clean at all.
or am i looking at the wrong pictures?
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Re: Which Planes from Where?

Postby Daniel » Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:02 am

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red circle = Indicates that the dust came after the piece of metal.

green circles = shows clearly the piece of metal is not clean at all.
An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it. Truth stands, even if there be no public support. It is self sustained.

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Re: Which Planes from Where?

Postby Darkwing » Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:31 am

That is certainly mightily strange.

How do you walk down the street and just happen to see something like that, by chance?

The green circle "damage part" doesn't look damaged to me at all, please explain. I also can't see what you are pointing out with the red circle.
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Re: Which Planes from Where?

Postby Daniel » Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:56 am

it sits on top of the dust and looks pretty clean.


to this i refered.

to me it does not look clean at all. to me it looks like the dust is also on the piece from the plane, you can see it on the numbers, they are filled with the dust.

and with the red circle i wanted to point out that there is less dust under the screw, wich indicates to me, that the dust came after the piece, and thus the piece sits NOT on the dust. but the dust is all over the car and the piece of metal.
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Re: Which Planes from Where?

Postby Darkwing » Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:58 pm

It's hard to tell, but I think you may be looking at the shadow cast by the tag or possibly even a slightly larger piece of debris.

As for the dust on the numbers, there was a lot of dust around, if someone was gonna go to the trouble of planting something like this it would have been easy to sprinkle some dust. But I venture that anything sitting anywhere in the vicinity would have picked up a lot of dust anyway, even if it wasn't there at the time of the collapse.

But when the tag was supposed to have fallen there (after the impact) there was not supposed to be any dust at all.
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Re: Witch Planes from Where?

Postby femr2 » Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:53 pm


Noticed from the PIO thread that a part with serial number 256T1115 was located in the 767 Illustrated Parts Catalog, but that folk thought the part had serial number 250T1115.

Upscaled the vid...
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Looks like 256T1115-2 to me. (The part identified in the catalogue was -1. No idea if there's a physical difference. Might be that the part is duplicated in the aircraft, with one being -1 and another being -2 ?)

It's location and orientation is very odd, but doubt there will be much extra information.
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Re: Which Planes from Where?

Postby Heretic76 » Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:28 pm

Wow! Great picture and great information. Sadly looks like a part number and not a serial number.

I'm surprised nobody has determined anything further. More evidence showing that indeed at least 1 Boeing was involved at WTC.
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