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Re: Pentagon plane logo

It's amazing to me that this same picture is referred to over and over when indicating 'proof' that the truth was told regarding the Pentagon. Even more amazing is the number of people that accept this as 'proof'. It ISN'T. If only people had brains, what a world this could be. proof of what? What ...
by SanderO
on Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:53 pm
 
Forum: Pentagon
Topic: Pentagon plane logo
Replies: 9
Views: 6086

Re: Is it an insignificant fringe or not?

Yet another stupid discussion of no consequence. This is about context. In the larger community of say all Americans... or all engineers etc... the truth movement is not very significant... whether it's completely insignificant or not has very little if any impact. Their mission appears to be to ove...
by SanderO
on Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:37 pm
 
Forum: Other Issues
Topic: Is it an insignificant fringe or not?
Replies: 457
Views: 16108

Re: Flight 77 witnesses/flight paths

EDucateIgnorance wrote: The administration in place in 2001 GOT AWAY with the most horrific event in modern American history and the 'sheople' allow it to continue to this day. SAD.


What event would that be specifically?
by SanderO
on Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:20 pm
 
Forum: Pentagon
Topic: Flight 77 witnesses/flight paths
Replies: 19
Views: 2184

Re: Is this forum becoming JREF-lite?

Ozzie there is enough experimental evidence to determine pretty well the extent of the fires and what results the fires would have on the internal structure and why. Making a big picture starts with making little fine brush strokes. When we make enough brush strokes the picture will be clear. I cer...
by SanderO
on Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:39 pm
 
Forum: Leadership and Group Dynamics
Topic: Is this forum becoming JREF-lite?
Replies: 375
Views: 4100

Re: General Discussion

build on what every one accepts as accurate....
by SanderO
on Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:19 pm
 
Forum: Debate Area
Topic: General Discussion
Replies: 37
Views: 3596

Re: Analysis showing Nordenson stiffness error

What do you make of this?
by SanderO
on Sat Dec 31, 2016 3:37 am
 
Forum: Other Issues
Topic: Analysis showing Nordenson stiffness error
Replies: 18
Views: 437

Re: History of the 9/11 Forum

This is rubbish. MT has correctly observed in my opinion a lot of group think / group mind with respect to the discussions about the collapses at the WTC site. His use of the term "experiment" is perhaps unfortunate but should not be taken literally as in "a scientific procedure under...
by SanderO
on Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:57 pm
 
Forum: Other Issues
Topic: History of the 9/11 Forum
Replies: 34
Views: 1014

Re: WTC1 Explosions before & during 1st plane hit

There are other causes of explosions throughout the building - electrical shorts and exploding transformers and switch gear. For sure the plane severed high tension risers going to the top mech floor electrical sub station. This could cause shorts and explosions at the top mech floor as well as in t...
by SanderO
on Sat Dec 17, 2016 4:22 am
 
Forum: WTC1 and WTC2 - Impacts
Topic: WTC1 Explosions before & during 1st plane hit
Replies: 18
Views: 5194

Re: Is this forum becoming JREF-lite?

All of the building went of a static state... albeit damaged and under assault of fires... in less than 20 seconds... What is significant about the length of time before the collapse? My reference was to the twin tower system. but no high rise towers are erected to span over power stations with mas...
by SanderO
on Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:20 pm
 
Forum: Leadership and Group Dynamics
Topic: Is this forum becoming JREF-lite?
Replies: 375
Views: 4100

Re: Is this forum becoming JREF-lite?

All of the building went of a static state... albeit damaged and under assault of fires... in less than 20 seconds... What is significant about the length of time before the collapse? My reference was to the twin tower system. but no high rise towers are erected to span over power stations with mass...
by SanderO
on Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:30 am
 
Forum: Leadership and Group Dynamics
Topic: Is this forum becoming JREF-lite?
Replies: 375
Views: 4100

Re: Is it an insignificant fringe or not?

This last comment was pure rubbish. This site is not about debunking... and not even about debating... but about technical discussion about the mechanisms... that can explain the collapse. I haven't a clue what pantomine debunking is or who engages in it on this site. One can't prove anything about ...
by SanderO
on Wed Dec 14, 2016 1:17 am
 
Forum: Other Issues
Topic: Is it an insignificant fringe or not?
Replies: 457
Views: 16108

Re: Is this forum becoming JREF-lite?

Are you saying that there is no need of a fact-based technical account of the World Trade Center collapses? Where did I say that? I simply said there is a limit to practical usability and interest. Here's the deal in my opinion. The fact that they twin towers and we might throw in 7 wtc collapses s...
by SanderO
on Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:31 am
 
Forum: Leadership and Group Dynamics
Topic: Is this forum becoming JREF-lite?
Replies: 375
Views: 4100

Re: Washington Post Conspiracy Theory: Russian Fake News

Is fake news "spin" on steroids... or is it a completely different animal?

Or is spin a mild form of fake news?

Where is the line between spin (PR) and fake news and lying/ intentional deception?
by SanderO
on Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:17 pm
 
Forum: Post 9/11 Politics
Topic: Washington Post Conspiracy Theory: Russian Fake News
Replies: 43
Views: 1163

Re: Loose Ends - Open discussion split from Bulging/Leaning

This conversation is stupid... close the thread or bane these posts... This is not acceptable.
by SanderO
on Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:35 pm
 
Forum: Other Issues
Topic: Loose Ends - Open discussion split from Bulging/Leaning
Replies: 677
Views: 8733

Re: Washington Post Conspiracy Theory: Russian Fake News

... Is that your personal imagination, or would you have any evidence for this? Again, media dynamics, nor propaganda, don't work that simplicitly. I read my Herman/Chomsky long before 9/11. Sure, the government (POTUS, Pentagon, State, ...) has its press departments and creates much of the news an...
by SanderO
on Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:02 pm
 
Forum: Post 9/11 Politics
Topic: Washington Post Conspiracy Theory: Russian Fake News
Replies: 43
Views: 1163
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