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Magical Reduction?

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Re: Magical Reduction?

Postby Trippy on Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:28 pm

Here's some new information to consider, although not directly related to the(alleged) dust samples.
Medieval blacksmiths used nanotechnology

It turns out that nanomaterials are over 400 years old.
It also turns out that materials with the apperance of comlex nano composites don't actually have to be engineered deliberately. Some times they just happen.
Correlation does not imply causation
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Re: Magical Reduction?

Postby femr2 on Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:09 pm

Trippy wrote:It turns out that nanomaterials are over 400 years old.
It also turns out that materials with the apperance of comlex nano composites don't actually have to be engineered deliberately. Some times they just happen.

Wildly OT IMO. There's a big difference between naturally occuring carbon nanotubes and the suggested composite layered materials.

I'd like to see Dr. G, or similar, get his hands on a wee sample and get to work :)

Until such, or similar, I suggest little progress can be made and we are still in super/nano/therm(i/a)te limbo, in terms of conclusive proof.

One side of the fence cannot say with 100% certainty that the compounds were present (deliberately engineered and used).
The other side of the fence cannot say with 100% certainty that they were not (deliberately engineered and used).

Await further evidence.
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Re: Magical Reduction?

Postby Trippy on Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:13 pm

femr2 wrote:
Trippy wrote:It turns out that nanomaterials are over 400 years old.
It also turns out that materials with the apperance of comlex nano composites don't actually have to be engineered deliberately. Some times they just happen.

Wildly OT IMO. There's a big difference between naturally occuring carbon nanotubes and the suggested composite layered materials.


What can I say - I remain unconvinced.

The chips were layered, not the components of the chips (If that's unclear, ask).
And the 'second layer' was largely or exclusively ferrous oxide, something which (to me at least) makes little or no sense in terms of a thermite compound (but does to me, when you consider some of the photos NIST took in the caking/peeling tests that they conducted).

All i'm saying is that, at the very least, by analogy, materials don't have to be specifically engineered to have nanometer scale components, sometimes they can arise 'simply' as a 'natural' part of the manufacturing (or other) process.
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Re: Magical Reduction?

Postby peterene1 on Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:07 pm

I second to the opinion of femr2......
Your lack of imagination is not among my premises
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Re: Magical Reduction?

Postby Trippy on Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:45 pm

peterene1 wrote:I second to the opinion of femr2......

I'm mystified by your opinion, after all, I would have that determining whether or not a material that appears to have been engineered using nanomaterials was deliberately or incidentally engineered would have been paramount, and neccessary before making any inferences about it's purpose, sinister or otherwise.
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