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Renovated express el. shafts- a key to the collapse

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Renovated express el. shafts- a key to the collapse

Postby peterene1 on Sun May 24, 2009 8:42 pm

The express elevator shafts, which contained express elevators 6A and 7A were out of order for at least a month, and were still closed on 9/11.These shafts (shaft) could provide acces to the 1000 and 900 row columns...that's not all........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPtAOtO1nTY

This video explains everything, maybe it's a little bit too wild for this forum, but.......
Your lack of imagination is not among my premises
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Re: Renovated express el. shafts- a key to the collapse

Postby femr2 on Sun May 24, 2009 9:34 pm

Has anyone modeled the effect of destroying the referenced columns ?
Or are there mass redistribution calcs available ?
If not, I suppose we'll have to get on the case...
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Re: Renovated express el. shafts- a key to the collapse

Postby T_Szamboti on Mon May 25, 2009 12:02 am

peterene1 wrote:The express elevator shafts, which contained express elevators 6A and 7A were out of order for at least a month, and were still closed on 9/11.These shafts (shaft) could provide acces to the 1000 and 900 row columns...that's not all........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPtAOtO1nTY

This video explains everything, maybe it's a little bit too wild for this forum, but.......


This is quite interesting. There are simply too many coincidences here with the darting flames, the out of service elevator shaft location relative to the darting flames, and the onset of bowing after the darting flames.
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Re: Renovated express el. shafts- a key to the collapse

Postby peterene1 on Mon May 25, 2009 2:06 pm

Oh, yes I hope that someone will do the calculations, I think that this is the reason why this forum exists

However the 4 core columns could be destroyed virtually on every floor (express elevators B1-107th floor) and they didn't have to be the only ones...and they could be destroyed simultaneously on multiple locations...remeber the 105th floor?

We will need a variety of calculations..and simulations...(in the future)

Anyway, as Tony Szamboti sad, there's no room for coincidences.......

So, is there anybody who can do the calculations? C'mon guys, the collapse dynamics isn't everything!
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Re: Renovated express el. shafts- a key to the collapse

Postby Major_Tom on Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:14 am

Peterene, here are images of the powerful ejection of flame on the WTC1 S face as WTC2 collapses.


Notice the intense contrast between nothing (first image) and a very powerful flame (third image) very quickly.


nothing
http://www.sharpprintinginc.com/911/index.php?module=photoalbum&PHPWS_Album_id=8&PHPWS_Photo_op=view&PHPWS_Photo_id=1513


flame erupts in two locations
http://www.sharpprintinginc.com/911/index.php?module=photoalbum&PHPWS_Album_id=8&PHPWS_Photo_op=view&PHPWS_Photo_id=1514


wow
http://www.sharpprintinginc.com/911/index.php?module=photoalbum&PHPWS_Album_id=8&PHPWS_Photo_op=view&PHPWS_Photo_id=1515



P1, we know that north side "squibs" happen only in the center of the building. That must have some geometrical meaning. Have you considered tying the two ideas together?
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