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Nonetheless, I think the probability is low that a few individuals within the government operatively supported the attacks with intent. I think the probability is extremely low that more than a few people within the government operatively supported the attacks with intent.
To put it simply, no.Major_Tom wrote:I strongly suspect that a MIHOP scenario is what actually took place on 9-11-01, and for this reason I'd like to ask the participants of this forum if they think I should seek some sort of professional help.
Carl Jung wrote:"If, for a moment, we regard mankind as one individual, we see that the human race is like a person carried away by unconscious powers; and the human race also likes to keep certain problems tucked away in separate drawers . . . Our world is, so to speak, dissociated like a neurotic, with the Iron Curtain making a symbolic line of division. . . . It is the face of his own evil shadow that grins at Western man from the other side of the Iron Curtain"
This as been claimed many times, but is totally unfounded. People will and always had problems they can't deal with before 9/11 and for many years afterwards, so it makes that argument invalid.Major_Tom wrote:I've read many times that people who tend to believe in a 9-11 conspiracy theory probably have more deep-seated problems they can't deal with.
Some would argue you are both Major Tom, although I would disagree.Major_Tom wrote:What do you think? Is a person who strongly suspects high level US Govt complicity in the events of 9-11-01 because of the queer nature of the WTC 7 fall or because the Pentagon video survellience on 9-11 was apparently inferior to that of your local gas station, or because the Pentagon damage seemed way too small to be caused by a 767, just paranoid? Or maybe just a loser?
Some people are more susceptible to criminal conspiracy theories than others, I'm sure it could be demonstrated in some kind of test but a persons susceptibility as nothing to do with whether a criminal conspiracy as taken place or not.Major_Tom wrote:Or maybe a pretty good person, but they are perhaps susceptible to criminal conspiracy theories?
Well apparently so...and that is all you need to qualify that statement. lolMajor_Tom wrote:Is such a VP just the product of the dillusional minds of millions of people?
I strongly suspect that a MIHOP scenario is what actually took place on 9-11-01, and for this reason I'd like to ask the participants of this forum if they think I should seek some sort of professional help.
Carl Jung wrote:
"If, for a moment, we regard mankind as one individual, we see that the human race is like a person carried away by unconscious powers; and the human race also likes to keep certain problems tucked away in separate drawers . . . Our world is, so to speak, dissociated like a neurotic
Hi Major_Tom,Major_Tom wrote:Quite the gentlemen our posters are.
Could you imagine the reaction such an OP would receive at the JREF forum? I would have been drop-kicked right out of the forum.
I am obviously being a bit sarcastic in the OP, not actually weighing the possibility of seeking professional help.
I have always been interested in psychology but I'm not sure if watching the video of WTC 7 can tell us any thing about the conditions of humanity as a whole.Major_Tom wrote:I am increasingly seeing the collective reaction to the recorded fall of WTC 7 as possibly the single most interesting question of 9-11, and it is a psychological question, not one involving the physical sciences.
Consider the spectrum of varied, highly intriguing reactions which people have when looking at a video of the fall of WTC 7.
To the point, what can this tell you about the condition of humanity in general?
Major_Tom wrote:Or imagine a large hall full of engineering "experts" gathered to watch the known video clips of the fall of WTC 7 and then being treated to a lecture of the official NIST explanation of the cause of the collapse, given by a NIST representative himself.
Now imagine you could read their inner thoughts during this process. Wouldn't that be fascinating? How much true human individuality would you be able to observe in the room? Imagine the possible question and answer session that could follow.
Imagine the degree of internal and external sheepishness manifest.
How many of those present would really be capable of rational, independent thought and sincere questioning of the contradictions before them?
Do you see my point? Why this is rather interesting psychologically?
I'm sure if you showed the video to random people in the streets with no prior knowledge of the building and it's relation to 9/11 and asked them to tell you how they thought the building collapsed, I'm sure most would say it looks like it was a controlled demolition.
If NIST were trying to BS independent experts most, if not all would see through their charade! NIST would have about as much credibility as Laurel and Hardys construction company. That is simply too risky.....I can't imagine NIST ever doing any presentations with real experts for the simple reason they would be made to look like fools.
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