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Early movement of WTC1 made simple(?)

Analysis, observations and theory related to initiation.

Early movement of WTC1 made simple(?)

Postby Major_Tom » Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:58 pm

Good stuff on the "missing jolts found" thread, but most readers are probably confused by all the data. In the next 6 posts I present a rough paper on the subject. Please offer advice on how to make the paper more simple and easier to understand.

I'll edit the paper as I receive comments.
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Introduction and conclusions

Postby Major_Tom » Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:59 pm

Abstract: Points along the top of WTC 1 are traced and plotted during the earliest moments of collapse to determine the initial order of column failure. Positional and tilt data is extracted from 5 video clips (footnote: See Appendix A). The earliest movements of points fixed to the perimeter and on the large and small antennas of WTC 1 are traced relative to stationary objects and relative to each other. The earliest detectable drift, lean and sag motions are also traced and plotted to give the most detailed record of the early motion of WTC 1 available.

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Conclusions from data:

>> The building above fl 98 was deforming from the shape of a rigid body during it's earliest movements. This has bee incorrectly identified as "tilting to the south". The traced points did not remain fixed relative to each other, so they did not move as points on a rigid body.

>> The earliest detectable movement was the antenna moving and leaning eastward and the NW corner being pulled eastward. The first movement visible to the naked eye was also the antenna which was both leaning and saggingand the NW corner being pulled inward.

>> The traced points show the earliest movement was that of the roof deforming into a concave shape, meaning the collective core must have sagged and failed before any traced point along the perimeter.

>> The NIST conclusion that the probable failure sequence of WTC1 originated in the south wall and spread to the core is contrary to the motion observed. All data and visual evidence suggests the collective core failed first, meaning the NIST conclusions are wrong.

>> Southward and eastward drift leaning is detected in the antenna and along the NW corner 9.5 seconds prior to any other visible movement on the building.
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Sauret North Viewpoint

Postby Major_Tom » Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:00 pm

Earliest detectable movement leading up to collapse initiation

The earliest detectable movement is traced back to 9.5 seconds before the visible collapse initiation here:

Upper West Wall Pulls Inward 9.5s before Collapse
Antenna Base Shifts Eastward 9.5s before Collapse





Image


Sauret Viewpoint:

Large antenna drop for multiple points:

Over 200 frames
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/1452/d ... t00007.png

Same with frames stretched
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3524 ... t00006.png

Same over 700 frames
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/2940/d ... t00008.png


East tilt large antenna, measured by tracking the horizontal difference between 2 points on the antenna.
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8246/easttilt.png

Features of the graph:
a) The earliest eastward tilt drift is detectable in frame -100 (or frame 70??)
b) The tilt measures about 0.3 degrees in frame 220
c) By frame 320 the tilt has not yet reached one degree


Evolution of east tilting of large antenna visualized (angle exaggerated)
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/328/easttilt.gif

Features of the east tilting of large antenna :
a) The data of the east tilt shows a gradual drift leaning of the antenna eastward, beginning more than 4 seconds before the first visible movement. Downward movement of the antenna begins in frame 155 and falling begins in frame 215. Notice how drift leaning to the east is detectable as early as frame -200.
b) The whole antenna is drifting eastward while it leans.

The same highlighting initiation frames only
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2889/easttiltsiminit.gif
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South tilt large antenna, measured by tracking the vertical difference and convergence of 2 points on the antenna.
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2149/nstilt.png

Features of the south tilt graph:
a) A south lean is first detected near frame 175
b) The antenna is leaning about 0.3 degrees to the south in frame 220 (it is later shown that the antenna starts to fall downward at a significant fraction of g in frame 220
c) The tilt reaches one degree in frame 295
d) By frame 320 the tilt has reached 2 degrees

For comparison, movement of stationary object in foreground
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2797/easttiltmetal.png
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Large antenna drop compared to east antenna drop
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/7726/twoantennas.png


NW corner drop

Multiple measurements of NW corner drop
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6412/dropvstilt00005.png

Features:
a) The graphs clearly show there is no downward movement until frame 220

Comparison of north (Sauret) with NE (NBC) viewpoints: Large antenna angle
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/6851/neview.png

Features of the comparison:
a)

Large antenna drop compared to NW corner drop, Sauret viewpoint
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/4753/image00029.png
The graph shows the drop data of the antenna compared to the NW corner. The measured downward velocities of both points are also shown.

Features:
a) Once again we see no movement of the NW corner until frame 220. Velocity measurements confirm this. The antenna moves downward as early as frame 155. The velocity graph of the antenna also seems to show a slow downward movement from frame 155 to frame 215, after which the antenna starts to fall at a significant fraction of g along with the NW corner.
b) Release points:

NE corner drop

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/6988/nedropraw.png

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/7884/necornerdata.png

NE corner, NW corner and large antenna drops compared
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/3816/nedrop30.png
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4128/nedrop3.png

NW corner drop velocity reductions
http://femr2.ucoz.com/photo/6-0-372-3
red is drop in ft
orange is velocity

Features:
a)

NW corner drop vs velocity
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/9369/image00007.png
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5808/image00010.png



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NBC Northwest Viewpoint

Postby Major_Tom » Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:01 pm

Image


Large antenna drop compared to SW corner drop,
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/3738/graphinitialdrop.png
We only care about the lines marked "real fire" and "real antenna".

104 fl fire drop raw
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/6379/firex.png
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1323/fireyr.png

Features:
a) Downward movement of the antenna is measured before the SW corner is observed to move.


Multiple measurements of large antenna, NW corner and SW corner drops taken separately and stretched, NBC NW viewpoint, show the same downward movement of these 3 points relative to each other:

NW corner drop
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3391 ... rsmall.png

Large antenna drop
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/2868 ... asmall.png

SW corner drop (104th fl fire)
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/840/firesmall.png

Static point for comparison
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/9170/staticsmall.png

Features:
a)


Another measurement of the large antenna, SW corner fire and NW corner washer drops from the NW NBC viewpoint shows once again that the antenna was moving downward before the SW and NW corners of the building.
http://femr2.ucoz.com/_ph/6/859401119.png
(notes: Black - Antenna
Red - Washer
Purple - SW Fire

59.94 fps - Resolution Doubled. 1 pixel on the graph is 0.5 pixels on the original video.)
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NBC Northeast Viewpoint

Postby Major_Tom » Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:02 pm

NE NBC viewpoint: Measurements of large antenna movement,

Angular movement of large antenna from NE, measured by tracking the horizontal difference between 2 points on the antenna
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/30/nemaxsouthtilt.png


Evolution of angular movement from NE viewpoint visualized (angle exaggerated)
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/9061/tilttimeline.gif

Features of the angular movement:
a) Between frame 165 and 217 the antenna tilted faster and reached about 0.75°. After frame 217 the tilting of the antenna stopped for the next 40 frames. During that time the antenna just shifted towards south while the north face (upper floors) apparently tilted more.
In the GIF above the x component of the movement is extremely stretched. Both axis are numbered each 10000 units. A thin blue line shows the position 10 frames ahead and a thin yellow line shows the position 10 frames before. The thin horizontal green lines show the measured antenna section. I extended the vertical lines to see at which elevation the "antenna" rotates (floor 98 is about at y=70000). It's obvious that the antenna started to descent at virtually 0° tilting. At about 0.6°tilting the north face gave way and stopped further tilting for the next 40 frames.)




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Trace measurements and visual evidence of relative movement between the large antenna mast and the small antenna east of the mast show concave roofline deformity

The moving smoke created problems for the trackers used to trace fixed points. Therefore some frames were cut away (between -218 and 153) because the smoke would have distracted the trackers. The cut in the video distracted the trackers to but the trackers returned back to the best fitting position. The antennas show the positions relative to frame -307 (my start frame for the measurement.

Small: http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/7726/twoantennas.png
Large: http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/7726/twoantennas.png


All positions measured one time in a bright and low contrast version of the video and one time in a dark and high contrast version. The major difference is visible in the behavior of the yellow and the orange curves. It's both times the upper tip of the small East antenna but the the bright video (yellow) the area based measurement followed the sagging wire right behind the top.
The GIF covers frame 168-208:
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6548/3antsenhanced.gif

This means that after frame 153 the antenna mast was already ahead of the east antenna. Until frame 207 the antenna mast sagged an additional 1500 units while the east antenna sagged about 700 units (orange curves) or less (yellow curves). That behavior is visible to the naked eye by the release of tension of the east guy wire supporting the antenna. and in the way the large antenna mast moved quite differently than the small antenna to it's east. This behavior cannot be explained by tilting in any direction. A part of the overall movement was caused by tilting but the difference in the way each antenna moved is a certain sign of roof deformation.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..
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Visual evidence of roof deformation during the earliest motion:

The antenna leans east and moves downward relative to the small antenna and the roofline. The guy wire looses tension. The small antenna remains stationary.
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2221/losttension.gif

There is no doubt the antenna moves before the 104th floor fire along the SW corner, west face in this gif from the NW:
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5425/excasest002.gif

The antenna and perimeter do not rotate together.

The antenna falls towards the east and downwards and the window washer on the NW corner is pulled east. The small antenna and the east side of the north perimeter remain stationary. Deformation of the roof is the only explanation. The gif flashes between the images from around frame 123 and 208.
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/9500/nonrigid2.gif

The east side of the north roofline remains stationary as the antenna falls downward toward the east.
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/328/easttilt.gif

The small antenna falls after the large one does
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4263/antennastab2.gif


http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6548/3antsenhanced.gif

relation of small to large antenna prior to 9-11-01
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8513/wiret.jpg
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Postby Major_Tom » Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:03 pm

gif of earliest detectable antenna movement
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6538/0500tilt.gif
synchronization: frame number minus 347. This gif covers the 8 second interval before visible movement. The observed drift movement is first detected 9.5 seconds prior to visible movement. T


First movements in the antenna and NW corner become detectable on the level of individual pixels about 4 seconds before visible movement: From frames 800 and 900 (OWE numbers - release point of NW corner around 907), Sauret video. Shifts in pixels between frames 800 and 900 seen below:

The washer, and the NW corner with it, moves left (easterly component) a little:
http://i39.tinypic.com/65vjuw.png

The antenna moves to the left more, and down some:
http://i44.tinypic.com/dzt83q.png

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The results of trace measurements visualized:
Pull-in of the upper NW corner over 500 frames (8 seconds) measured by a sub-pixel tracking technique, visualized - horizontally stretched:
http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/4466/nwcornertiltsm.gif

Pull-in of upper NW corner compared to the eastward leaning of the antenna over 500 frames (8 seconds)
http://www.bilderload.com/bild/36073/nwcornertiltantsm2FQ8P2.gif


The pull-in of the NW corner and the sagging of the antenna are visible to the naked eye in these gifs:

Antenna visibly sags over frames 120 to 208:
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/7198/hatmove.gif

The earliest visible antenna movement shown from 3 viewpoints synchronized:
http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/666/initialtilt175230b.gif

In the center we see a narrow view that shows the movement of the 104th floor fire along the SW corner, west face. Notice how the antenna moves at least 1 seconds before the SW corner fire, meaning they could not have rotated together as a rigid object. Antenna movement clearly and visibly comes before perimeter movement.
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Appendix A: Source video information

Postby Major_Tom » Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:10 pm

video sources:

Sauret viewpoint

Youtube version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGAofwkAOlo&feature=channel_page

The first 20 seconds are the original Sauret video.

Features:

1) The camera shakes about 9.5 seconds before collapse.
2) The antenna and the NW corner of the building begin to slowly move during or immediately after the camera shake.

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

achimspok Sauret version: starts some seconds prior to the shaking camera.

File specs:
97.730.578 bytes
Audio: Dolby AC3 48000Hz 6ch 224Kbps [AC-3]
Video: MPEG2 Video 720x480 (16:9) 29.97fps 9608Kbps [Video]
duration: 02:04,124

The unfolded video fields into frames gives 7440 frames at 59.94fps. Just a segment of it is used. Frame 2005 of the unfolded version is the first frame "000".

Link to the original file:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=E6WOP2QS

Link to the upscaled segment used as numbered JPEGs and separated into the video fields.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EHYHYRF4


Camera position:
1342m north
662m east
elevation 32m
http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/8484/sauret.png
The architecture in that area doesn't allow for many possibilities and those possibilities would affect the results in a very small way since the most important relation is the appearance of the antenna in the projection plane of the north face. For this projection plane we get the pixel-height relation from the video. It wouldn't change at all. So the results should be very close if the Sauret camera is placed 1342m north and 662m east of the center of the north tower at 32m above ground. The north tower is 29° turned towards the east.
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NW NBC viewpoint original file:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VABQMPWG

camera position relative to the center of the north tower:
662.84m north
29.26m east
1.5m elevation
28° tower turned towards east
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NE NBC viewpoint
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO08Jk0yFRM
camera position in relation to the center of WTC1
272m north
1506m east
elevation 130m

on the roof of the reddish building here
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/4039/camerapositionnbcv.png
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


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NBC NW-corner and Sauret synchronized (1920x1080)
Download available at: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QIYRZNR3
It is a packed rar. It includes numbered JPGs for every frame at 59.94fps and the numbering Achimspok used. The videos are 29,97fps! Therefore you always have the same frame twice. The Sauret included is the blown up "field 0" of the original interlaced frames.

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CNN west clips

http://www.youtube.com/user/femr2?&MMN_ ... _f3d-gETnk
http://www.youtube.com/user/femr2?&MMN_ ... a3RJvIaHL8

http://www.youtube.com/user/femr2?&MMN_ ... a3RJvIaHL8

http://www.youtube.com/user/femr2?&MMN_ ... a3RJvIaHL8
http://www.youtube.com/user/femr2?&MMN_ ... a3RJvIaHL8


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FOX south clips

http://www.youtube.com/user/femr2?&MMN_ ... a3RJvIaHL8
http://www.youtube.com/user/femr2?&MMN_ ... a3RJvIaHL8

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NOTES:
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OWE Sauret version: framerate is 29.97 (recombined fields). The set of points are over-determined because there's some uncertainty in matching. Hopefully this assists. An entire thread devoted to this may provide additional info:

sauret-data-synch-t239.html

and a comment on why OWE frame numbers are off by 10 from the beginning of the segment are the first couple of paragraphs of this post:

http://www.the911forum.freeforums.org/t ... html#p7680

There is a difference of 195 frames between OWE's and achimspok's versions.
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Appendix B: The NIST's description of collapse initiation

Postby Major_Tom » Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:10 pm

A condensed but thorough summary of how the NIST explain the initial sequence of buckling which led to collapse of WTC1 is in NCSTAR 1-6D, Ch 5, section 5.2, p312 to 318 (draft form from p305 to 312), in a section titled "WTC 1 Collapse Sequence" and 1-6draft 9.3.1, p 287-295 in a section titled "Probable collapse sequence of WTC1". Relevant sections are reproduced below.
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1-6D, p 312:

Table 5–1. Summary of main events that led to the collapse of WTC 1.
Event Number........ Event
1 .......................Aircraft impact
2 .......................Unloading of core
3 .......................Sagging of floors and floor/wall disconnections
4........................Bowing of the south wall
5 .......................Buckling of south wall and collapse initiation



1-6D, pg 314:

Bowing of South Wall

The exterior columns on the south wall bowed inward as they were subjected to high temperatures, pull-in forces from the floors beginning at 80 min, and additional gravity loads redistributed from the core. Figure 5–6 shows the observed and the estimated inward bowing of the south wall at 97 min after impact (10:23 a.m.). Since no bowing was observed on the south wall at 69 min (9:55 a.m.), as shown in Table 5–2, it is estimated that the south wall began to bow inward at around 80 min when the floors on the south side began to substantially sag. The inward bowing of the south wall increased with time due to
continuing floor sagging and increased temperatures on the south wall as shown in Figs. 4–42 and 5–7. At 97 min (10:23 a.m.), the maximum bowing observed was about 55 in. (see Fig. 5–6).

Buckling of South Wall and Collapse Initiation

With continuously increased bowing, as more columns buckled, the entire width of the south wall buckled inward. Instability started at the center of the south wall and rapidly progressed horizontally toward the sides. As a result of the buckling of the south wall, the south wall significantly unloaded (Fig. 5–3),
redistributing its load to the softened core through the hat truss and to the south side of the east and west walls through the spandrels. The onset of this load redistribution can be found in the total column loads in the WTC 1 global model at 100 min in the bottom line of Table 5–3. At 100 min, the north, east, and
west walls at Floor 98 carried about 7 percent, 35 percent, and 30 percent more gravity loads than the state after impact, and the south wall and the core carried about 7 percent and 20 percent less loads, respectively. The section of the building above the impact zone tilted to the south (observed at about 8°,
Table 5–2) as column instability progressed rapidly from the south wall along the adjacent east and west walls (see Fig. 5–8), resulting in increased gravity load on the core columns. The release of potential energy due to downward movement of building mass above the buckled columns exceeded the strain
energy that could be absorbed by the structure. Global collapse ensued.




1-6draft, p 288, Table 9-5 titled "Observations for WTC1", fifth entry:
and
1-6D, p 312, Table 5-2, last entry

Tower began to collapse – first exterior sign of collapse was at
Floor 98. Rotation of at least 8 degrees to the south occurred before
the building section began to fall vertically under gravity.


1-6draft p 290, figure 9-8 on probable collapse initiation sequence for WTC1:

3. Collapse Initiation
• The inward bowing of the south wall induced column instability, which progressed rapidly horizontally across the entire south face.
• The south wall unloaded and tried to redistribute the loads via the hat truss to the thermally weakened core and via the spandrels to the adjacent east and west walls.
• The entire section of the building above the impact zone began tilting as a rigid block (all four faces; not only the bowed and buckled south face) to the south (at least about 8º) as column instability progressed rapidly from the south wall along the adjacent east and west walls.
• The change in potential energy due to downward movement of building mass above the buckled columns exceeded the strain energy that could be absorbed by the structure. Global collapse then ensued.


1-6draft, p 294:

Buckling of South Wall and Collapse Initiation

The inward bowing of the south wall increased as the post-buckling strength of bowed columns continued to reduce. The bowed columns increased the loads on the unbuckled columns on the south wall by shear transfer through the spandrels. Consequently instability progressed horizontally, and when it engulfed the entire south wall, it progressed along the east and west walls. Moreover, the unloading of the south wall resulted in further redistribution of gravity loads on the south wall to the east and west walls and to the thermally weakened core via the hat truss. At 100 min, the north, the east, and the west walls at Floor 98 carried about 7 percent, 35 percent, and 30 percent more gravity loads than the state after impact, and the south wall and the core carried about 7 percent and 20 percent less loads, respectively. The section of the building above the impact zone began tilting to the south at least about 8° as column instability progressed rapidly from the south wall along the adjacent east and west walls, as shown in Fig. 9–13. The change in potential energy due to downward movement of building mass above the buckled columns exceeded the strain energy that could have been absorbed by the structure. Global collapse ensued.



1-6draft, p 317:

Finding 26: The WTC 1 building section above the impact and fire area tilted to the south as the structural collapse initiated. The tilt was toward the side of the building that had the long span floors. Video records taken from east and west viewpoints showed that the upper building section tilted to the south. Video records taken from a north viewpoint showed no discernable east or west component in the tilt. A tilt to the south of at least 8 degrees occurred before dust clouds obscured the view and the building section began to fall downwards.



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Dr Bazant also offers a condensed summary of what he believes caused the initial buckling sequence in WTC1 in B&V, p 2, column 1 in a section titled "Review of Causes of WTC Collapse". This section is reproduced below.

Dr Bazant, from Bazant and Verdure:

Review of Causes of WTC Collapse


Although the structural damage inflicted by aircraft was severe, it
was only local. Without stripping of a significant portion of the
steel insulation during impact, the subsequent fire would likely
not have led to overall collapse (Bažant and Zhou 2002a; NIST
2005). As generally accepted by the community of specialists in
structural mechanics and structural engineering (though not by a
few outsiders claiming a conspiracy with planted explosives), the
failure scenario was as follows:

1. About 60% of the 60 columns of the impacted face of framed
tube (and about 13% of the total of 287 columns) were severed,
and many more were significantly deflected. This
caused stress redistribution, which significantly increased the
load of some columns, attaining or nearing the load capacity
for some of them.

2. Because a significant amount of steel insulation was stripped,
many structural steel members heated up to 600°C, as confirmed
by annealing studies of steel debris (NIST 2005) (the
structural steel used loses about 20% of its yield strength
already at 300°C, and about 85% at 600°C (NIST 2005);
and exhibits significant viscoplasticity, or creep, above
450°C (e.g., Cottrell 1964, p. 299), especially in the columns
overstressed due to load redistribution; the press reports right
after September 11, 2001 indicating temperature in excess of
800°C, turned out to be groundless, but Bažant and Zhou’s
analysis did not depend on that).

3. Differential thermal expansion, combined with heat-induced
viscoplastic deformation, caused the floor trusses to sag. The
catenary action of the sagging trusses pulled many perimeter
columns inward (by about 1 m, NIST 2005). The bowing of
these columns served as a huge imperfection inducing multistory
out-of-plane buckling of framed tube wall. The lateral
deflections of some columns due to aircraft impact, the differential
thermal expansion, and overstress due to load redistribution
also diminished buckling strength.

4. The combination of seven effects—(1) Overstress of some
columns due to initial load redistribution; (2) overheating
due to loss of steel insulation; (3) drastic lowering of yield
limit and creep threshold by heat; (4) lateral deflections of
many columns due to thermal strains and sagging floor
trusses; (5) weakened lateral support due to reduced in-plane
stiffness of sagging floors; (6) multistory bowing of some
columns (for which the critical load is an order of magnitude
less than it is for one-story buckling); and (7) local plastic
buckling of heated column webs—finally led to buckling of
columns (Fig. 1(b)). As a result, the upper part of the tower
fell, with little resistance, through at least one floor height,
impacting the lower part of the tower.
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Appendix C: How south and east tilt are seen from the NE

Postby Major_Tom » Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:14 pm

Seen from the NE an antenna leaning leftward may have a southern and/or eastern component of tilt. Using the rotating model shown in the gif below, we can measure how a given angle of rotation is seen from the NE NBC perspective.
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/1364 ... rement.gif

Some known rotations are mapped vs the angle the antenna appears from the NE perspective here:
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3236 ... isible.png
Over the first few degrees rotation the angle is perceived as 80% of the actual angle.

The same model tilting eastward shows the NE viewpoint sees 70% of an eastward tilt.
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Re: Early movement of WTC1 made simple(?)

Postby achimspok » Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:34 pm


synchronization: frame number minus 347.
For better understanding: That movement happened during 8 seconds prior to the collapse.

Angular movement of antenna from NE, measured by tracking 2 points on the antenna.
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2258/tiltangle.png
(vertical scale is wrong. Shape of plot is correct. Scale should be stretched 25%)

The image should be replaced with the following:
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/30/nemaxsouthtilt.png
This one shows the raw curves unchanged and the fat curve 25% stretched for the maximal possible south tilt for east tilt = zero.

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I gave the measurement of the NE corner drop a second tricky try. I chroma-keyed the moving smoke and replaced it with vertical lines as guides for the area trackers.
Image
I guess the result is pretty good. Here are the raw curves (horizontal grid = 10ft):
Image
large:http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/6988/nedropraw.png

Image
large:http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/3816/nedrop30.png
Image
large:http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4128/nedrop3.png
The NE corner started to descent in frame 211. The velocity curve kinks down in 209 because of symmetrical averaging. The roof line reaches a tilt angle of about 0.25° in frame 235.

The faster east tilt of the antenna started in frame 185. Once again, if the core was pulled east by a perimeter collapse of the 98 SE corner we may expect between frame 185 and 211 twice the east angle of the antenna at the south face and both south corners. The fire at 104 SW corner should move 0.2 meters towards east but...
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/6379/firex.png
...the x-component of the 104 fire shows no motion at all (eastward motion = downwards slope of the curve). May be the top tilted towards south at the very same time and nullified the x-component. If so then we should see at least a downwards motion of the fire between 185 and 210 but...
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1323/fireyr.png
...the y-component of the 104 fire apparently moved downwards after frame 210 and may be between 145 and 185. Between 185 and 210 all 19 curves show an upwards tendency (flame up due to core collapse?).
If the perimeter forced the core to tilt then it appears to be impossible that the perimeter stopped to tilt right when the core started to tilt and vice versa. Hence, there is no detectable perimeter driven cause for the east tilt of the antenna.
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Re: Early movement of WTC1 made simple(?)

Postby David B. Benson » Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:34 pm

Well done all!

What is the drop of the antenna tower just before there is any measureable (observable) drop of either the NE or NW corners?
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Re: Early movement of WTC1 made simple(?)

Postby achimspok » Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:30 am

It's partially caused by tilting south and partially by concave roof deformation.
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Re: Early movement of WTC1 made simple(?)

Postby David B. Benson » Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:55 am

achimspok wrote:It's partially caused by tilting south and partially by concave roof deformation.
Ok, that'll do. What I would like is an estimate of the number of meters.
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Re: Early movement of WTC1 made simple(?)

Postby achimspok » Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:11 am

It's not about meters. It's a smaller amount of sagging. The best estimate at this time is about 2ft sagging too much to be explainable by tilting about a hinge at floor 98. May be a larger radius (lower hinge) could explain it but there is no clue for a lower hinge at all. The extension of the measured xy-components of the antenna movement confirms the hinge at about the 98th floor.

In other words, tilting caused an "apparent sagging" seen from north. And we get the best measurements from the north. The amount of visible "sagging" is more than explainable by tilting south (or east about the west face because otherwise the east tilt would not cause an apparent sagging).
Finally we are confronted with a perimeter collapse theory. Some perimeter (south or east) must collapse first to redistribute the loads to the core. The core probably would follow the direction of the initiated collapse. As long as the north face doesn't move the amount of "deformation" near the collapse initiation should be twice the amount of the displacement of the antenna because the antenna is perfectly in the middle between NW corner and SE corner or even between south face an north face. And I would expect some small amount of convex roof deformation just to span the outriggers in the right direction for the alleged cause-result-chain "perimeter -> core".
Well, the earliest movement we can see or measure is a slow creeping tilt towards east for at least 8 seconds. A faster tilting of the antenna towards east started in about frame 185 (my numbering). That faster movement also decreased visibly the tension of a wire between east face and antenna mast while the small antenna between the mast and the fixing point of the wire "sagged" about half the amount of the mast (compared to a higher and a lower elevation at the mast both times with the same result).
As you see above the antenna reached an apparent sagging of about 0,4 meters (translated into the plane of the north face).
ARCTAN(0.4m/31.5m) = 0.73°
The angle of the north tilt at that time was about 0.25°.
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Re: Early movement of WTC1 made simple(?)

Postby Major_Tom » Sun Apr 11, 2010 7:08 pm

Achimspok, I want to make the section I call "MEASURING DIFFERENCES BETWEEN 3 POINTS, COMPARED WITH MODEL UNDERGOING RIGID ROTATION" even more simple.

In the photo

Image

I suggest we draw a fourth line at the 98th floor. We are actually measuring the differences between 4 points. The 98th fl is the lowest point.

4 points: high to low

1) antenna black to white transition (pink) called ant or a
2) lower antenna ball (blue) called ball or b
3) roof NW corner (yellow) called roof or r
4) 98th fl called 98.

This leaves us with 3 measurements between points:

quantity a-b: We know the antenna remains rigid between a and b because we can see it. The changing distance a-b is directly proportional to the south tilt of the antenna. In the graphs below on the right we can see the measured a-b as the blue line. We can use the fixed relation between a-b and south tilt angle on the left to estimate the actual south tilt in any frame. We can see that in frame 224 the south tilt of the antenna is about 0.6 to 0.7 degrees.
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/5084/image00000x.png

quantity r-98: Again, we know building between the 98th fl and the NW corner roof line remained rigid until north perimeter gave along the 98th fl because we can see it. Therefore we can use the change in r-98 to estimate how much the north perimeter has tilted for any given NW roof line drop distance. The r drop data is mapped on the right
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/364/image00019.png

The fixed relation between r drop and southward tilt of the north perimeter is on the left. We can use the graph on the left to estimate the actual tilt angle of the north perimeter for any frame before the point at which the NW corner fails along the 98th floor. Casual inspection of the plot of motion tells us the 98th floor NW corner gave at about frame 230. The higher resolution data linked below shows us the NW corner gave around frame 224
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/4753/image00029.png

We can use the drop data before frame 224 to estimate the angle the north face has tilted. We can see that in frame 224 the north face has only tilted about 0.4 degrees to the south.

quantity b-r: The measured data for b-r shows there must have been significant deformation between the points b and r. Measurements for b-r are mapped as the pink line in the graph on the right
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/5084/image00000x.png

If we assume the building remained rigid between points b and r and try to estimate rotation in frame 224 using the fixed b-r to angle relations in the graph on the right, we would place the tilt at about 1 degree.

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Using a-b tells us the antenna rotated about 0.6 degrees to the south in frame 224.

Using r-98 tells us the north face rotated about 0.4 degrees to the south in frame 224.

Using b-r as if the structure is rigid tells us the upper portion rotated about 1 degree by frame 224, which cannot be true considering the actual rotations of the antenna and the north face. Treating points b and r as fixed (rigid) relative to each other gives us a tilt angle which is too large.

Since we know points a and b remained fixed relative to each other through the antenna, and points r and 98 remained fixed relative to each other through the north wall over the frames of interest, this means point b must have sank too much relative to point r to be considered to maintain a rigid relation.
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